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Facebook Groups and Pages Compared: Communities for Accepted Students

18 Jul 2011

written by Mike Petroff

Facebook Communities for Accepted Students

According to a survey of 226 colleges conducted by Varsity Outreach in 2010, an overwhelming majority (88%) of colleges and universities have already created a Facebook presence for their school. So, how are Admissions Offices utilizing Facebook as a community-building tool for their accepted students and incoming classes?

Two popular options are Facebook Groups and Facebook Pages. In the same Varsity Outreach survey, 89% of Admissions Offices said they used Facebook Pages and 77% used Groups, while 78% used a combination of Pages, Groups or Facebook Applications.

To learn more about how Facebook Pages compare with Groups for community-building, I reached out to Lougan Bishop, an admin of the Facebook Group for Belmont University’s incoming class. I wanted to compare how our Emerson College Class of 2015 Facebook Page differed from the Belmont University Class of 2015 Official Group. At Emerson College, we also created a private community using Inigral’s Schools App with great results. I will compare our incoming student Facebook Page with the Inigral Schools App in a post later this summer.

Marketing and Inviting Students to an Online Community

Mike (Facebook Page): The Emerson College Class of 2015 Page was first marketed as a “Next Step” in our online decisions for accepted students. It’s incredibly important to invite accepted students immediately after they receive letters so they can celebrate with other accepted students and current students invited to the Page. We also listed our Facebook Page on our accepted student public website, internal portal, and in promoted a custom URL in mailed postcards. Finally, we ran a campaign called “Hats Off To You!” in which we mailed Emerson winter caps to accepted students, inviting them to post pictures to Facebook, wearing their new hats.

Lougan (Facebook Group): Belmont promotes its Class of 2015 group mostly by email marketing and word of mouth. About two weeks after a student has been admitted to the university, an email is sent to their primary email address explaining the group and how to join it.  We’ve also created fliers which are handed out to students during our special admitted student only events.  Finally, we created a redirect URL that counselors can give students via phone or email so that its easier to direct them to the right group.  Next year, we plan to promote the group even further.

Public Page vs. Invite-Only Group

Mike (Facebook Page): Opening our incoming student community to the public has some very key benefits. Allowing all members of our Emerson community (current students, staff, faculty and alumni) to participate freely and converse with incoming students is a huge benefit. I want our incoming students to not only meet each other, but also be able to ask questions to a wide variety of Emersonians and get a more ‘true’ perspective of life at Emerson. Plus it allows more passive users (like parents and siblings) to view public posts and see the excitement of our incoming students.

While I can’t control who “Likes” our Facebook Page, I can easily control spam by removing posts (and users) if they are not participating in our community-building efforts.

Lougan (Facebook Group): We wanted to create an invite only group for several reasons. Having a closed group allows you to keep the folks you don’t want out and it lets the students have peace of mind that someone isn’t trying to sell them something. Closed groups also help control misinformation, especially in regards to scholarships, financial aid, and housing.  I find it easier to manage our message in a closed group, where I can answer the questions directly.

Exclusivity is also a huge reason why we have a closed group.  Students feel special knowing that they are the students who were admitted to the university.  The people they are talking to could potentially be their future classmates.  I also believe that having a closed group gives students within the group piece of mind, that the entire world isn’t looking at the things they are saying.  I know that students in our group are more open with others because they know the public isn’t watching, and in turn this energizes conversation.

Creating Conversations

Mike (Facebok Page): As the admin of a Page, it’s important to know the key ways that users will return to your Page wall and interact with other Page fans (or “Likes”). Posting a status, link or photo as the Page will push that update to the News Feeds the incoming students, which is a great way to update them with important information or just get them talking to each other. Using the Discussions area of Pages is very useful in creating topics for conversation without overloading the Page wall with posts. Our Class of 2015 Page has over 100 discussion topics, with more popular threads including over 80 posts.

Lougan (Facebook Group): I’ve never really had to create conversations in the group because of how the group is set up.   Students are notified when others post in the group from their homepage.  They can also be notified by email when someone posts in the group, or posts in a thread they are subscribed to. On average students post about 300-400 topics and comments per day, though I believe this will pick up over the summer as students are out of school and bored.  Typically, I sit in awe of what the students are talking about,  make a random funny comment from time to time, and answer lots of questions directly on the group.

Having notifications show up on the homepage of Facebook is the key to the groups success. It’s a constant reminder that there is something going on in the group. I believe that having that link there drives people to the group.  It encourages you to leave your news feed and actually click on something. Pages lack that kind of font page access, and thus I believe a lot of interaction takes place on a users news feed, rather than the actual page.  This is why I believe that groups have the potential to generate far more interaction than a Page could.

Administration Time

Mike (Facebook Page): Creating a Facebook Page may only take a few minutes, but it requires a strong time commitment to create a sense of community and gain the trust of the incoming students. Be prepared to answer questions on Sunday nights (if there’s a Monday deadline approaching), check your Facebook messages as often as your e-mail, and get your current students actively involved. From January to July, I’m spending about three to five hours a week maintaining our Facebook Pages.

Lougan (Facebook Group): I’ve devoted a good chunk of time to the Facebook group.  I’m available to answer questions pretty much at any time.  I also constantly monitor the group and encourage discussion through interaction with the students. The attention seems to have to paid off, since the group encompasses close to 80% of the incoming class and is still incredibly active.  Parents have even approached us during orientation and have praised how the group has really helped their student feel comfortable and build strong friendships before the students stepped foot on campus.

Final Thoughts

It’s important to note that Facebook is the only platform for creating communities for incoming students – but it is one of the most popular. Having an active community involves a strong combination of the following:

  • Be where your students are
  • Make it easy for them to join
  • Give them a reason to join
  • Don’t censor them or get too involved (think: What would a chaperone do?)
  • Provide excellent customer service
  • Invite current students and encourage authenticity

How are you building online communities for your incoming students? What’s working well for your school? I’d love to hear your examples and opinions in the comments.

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About the author

Mike Petroff

Mike is the Web Manager for Enrollment at Emerson College in Boston, MA.  He leads web marketing and online recruitment efforts for undergraduate and graduate admission.  Mike also chairs the social media group at Emerson as they work on coming up with ways to use the social web to recruit the next generation of students. You can find him on Twitter at @mikepetroff.

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  • http://kathylisiewicz.wordpress.com/ Kathy Lisiewicz

    I’m looking forward to your Facebook page/Inigral app comparison–I’d like to know if you can see a difference in engagement and retention.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lougan Lougan Bishop

      I am as well! 

  • http://www.edumorphology.com mpstaton

    Hey Mike and Lougan,

    Great analysis here.  Mike, thanks for giving us a shout.

    A few thoughts:  

    Groups’ ability to send notifications and show up in the newsfeed is entirely recent.  Facebook has just started investing its time and development into Groups, and they’re focused on smaller groups (30-50 people, they say.)  Some of this functionality may give way after 250 users have joined the app.  

    Pages can be more open than Groups.  That openness does allow for the easy participation of others alongside the incoming students.  There is a risk that it gets spammy or that conversations and issues raised become “lost” deep inside the page.  It’s also difficult to orchestrate the type of community participation from current students and staff that would prove helpful in the long run.  

    Facebook is going to constantly evolve these features.  Facebook Pages and Groups may do things we aren’t even thinking about by next year.  It’s fun to watch it unfold before our eyes.  

    The Schools App (by my company Inigral) specializes in operating this kind of community for incoming students, but we ultimately will focus on functionality that makes it highly appropriate for schools to run alongside or in place of a Group or Page and can add a lot of value to both students and to the admissions office.  We also don’t end up a “ghost Group or Page” after the incoming class has matriculated.  Facebook isn’t building Pages or Groups with the admissions use case, or even an educational use case. in mind.  

    It’s not a zero sum game.  In the end, fostering more and better opportunities for students to connect, find information, and build relationships is going to be a positive outcome, and it may be through many rather than one approach.  

    Best Regards,

    Michael Staton

    • http://www.facebook.com/lougan Lougan Bishop

      Actually, very little functionality goes when groups reach over 250 students.  The only thing you lose is chat and the ability to receive notifications for every post or comment.  

      Over all, I totally agree with you.  It’s all in how you use it.  

  • http://www.brandoncroke.com Brandon Croke

    Great post Michael, at Inigral we’re diving into similar research on FB Pages and Groups. We’d love to hear how other schools are creating online communities for accepted students. We couldn’t agree more on the importance of promoting the community on multiple comm. channels to drive group membership (also love the hat idea). 
    Although we agree with that a private network helps build community and interaction, we’re still trying to find a way to “scientifically” measure the correlation. It’s been hard to compare different schools with different groups, pages, and student populations and still make a solid conclusion that a private network is better, but our gut says yes. One thing we have heard from students to support this is notion is that they enjoy being able to create their “new” user profile in our App. which helps introduce their new college self to the world. We think it’s extremely important to help students make the transition from who they were in high-school to who they want to become in college. Since I don’t want to be the product plug guy on here, I’ll write a post on our blog to dive into the capabilities the Schools App. has that Pages and Groups aren’t designed for. Thanks again for this overview, we’re looking forward to hearing the results from your Facebook Page and Schools App comparison!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3218096 Kristin Burns

    At UC Davis we have a Facebook page for prospective students, Facebook groups for our incoming freshman and transfer classes, and we just started using Inigral this year as well. We weren’t able to get our Inigral site up in time for our admission decisions, so we created Facebook groups (as we have done in the past for several years, publicizing through e-mail and in admit packets) and now we have students in both. The more engaged students seem to be on the Facebook group vs. the Inigral site, but it may just be that they started their conversations at the group first, so that’s where they feel most comfortable. Some mentioned it was more difficult to get around Inigral app. I am interested to hear Emerson’s experiences with Inigral! It might be more useful once we build up a base of student classes, and we liked the idea of students finding each other through similar interests, hometowns, etc.

    We did have some “trolls” invade our Facebook class groups, even though they are closed groups, so I am interested to know how/if Lougan tracks who is a legit new student and who is not at the Belmont group. It would take a lot of dedicated time to try match the students who request to join with our admitted student population, so we’ve basically just accepted all requests to join and then kick spammers out if they become obvious through their posts. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/lougan Lougan Bishop

      Hey Kristin!  Long time no see!

      As far as how I track students in the group, Belmont uses the Hobsons CRM Connect to communicate with students.  I use that database to cross reference names with the students who request to join the group. This allows me to have pretty tight control over who gets in and who doesn’t.  Other than the first few days where hundreds join per day, most days are pretty manageable, with only a few joins a day.  

      It’s not fool proof…  I’ve accidentally let one troll into the group, which was dealt with.  

      UC Davis is a MUCH larger school than Belmont though.  Our incoming class though sizable by our standards is nothing compared to a school like yours.   I’m not sure it would be logistically possible for you to control who is in and who is not.  

      It doesn’t surprise me that your Facebook groups are more engaged.  They were designed so they would be.  It’s just really hard to get a message to students out with it.  Groups are built for social interaction, not for brand messaging.  

    • http://www.edumorphology.com mpstaton

      Hi Kristin,

      Thanks for chiming in!  Part of it is that they started with the group and that gets a lot of traction. Part of it is that Facebook Groups can send notifications into Facebook (we’re working on our notifications now).  Part of it is unfamiliar territory. In the end, students are trying to get at one another.  We want to make that as easy as possible in valuable ways that Facebook isn’t thinking about….  The Davis app is pretty kicking though, with on average posts at least every hour.  The Finding Housing discussion was very popular as well!  

      Looking forward to doing good stuff together!

      Cheers,

      Michael

    • http://www.edumorphology.com mpstaton

      Hi Kristin,

      Thanks for chiming in!  Part of it is that they started with the group and that gets a lot of traction. Part of it is that Facebook Groups can send notifications into Facebook (we’re working on our notifications now).  Part of it is unfamiliar territory. In the end, students are trying to get at one another.  We want to make that as easy as possible in valuable ways that Facebook isn’t thinking about….  The Davis app is pretty kicking though, with on average posts at least every hour.  The Finding Housing discussion was very popular as well!  

      Looking forward to doing good stuff together!

      Cheers,

      Michael

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    We have had this incredible surge of students in our 2015 group – more so than in previous years. It’s been a cool social experiment, but also tougher to manage in a group format now that we have exceeded 1100 members. Even though 2016 is already set up as a group, I am considering switching to a page format for the discussion option. I think I will help compartmentalize some of the most recurring discussions. In a group format it’s tougher as your volume grows to weed through the “Yo yo we kickin’ it 2K15″ and “Who’s in my hall/major/hometown” comments to answer questions because of the fact that Facebook groups don’t offer chronological stacking. Some students complain of too many notifications, they can’t find their previous comment threads and they straight up freaked when the group chat was disabled because te group had exceeded the volume limit. Overall though it’s been a great recruitment and retention tool.

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  • David Nitzsche-Bell

    “It’s important to note that Facebook is the only platform for creating communities for incoming students – but it is one of the most popular.”

    I’m guessing you mean “FB is *not* the only….”?

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